#3 The Vedic Period (cont.)

Udayan was the lead speaker. The following points were discussed.
  • Review of Vedic period
  • Sources of data and nomenclature
  • India vs. World - 2000 BC
  • Establish timeline
  • Aryan Invasion Theory
  • Early Vedic civilization - 1200 BC
  • World around 1200 BC
  • Late Vedic civilization - 600 BC
  • Use of Iron
  • India vs. World - 500 BC
Basis of Understanding
  • From Archeological sites
  • Text - Vedic and related text, Buddhist and Jain text, Panini grammar of Sanskrit, Arthashastra of Chanakya, Greek sources
  • Linguistics Similarity - Eurasian language and Sanskrit, Rig-Veda and Avesta (Zoroastrian)
  • Genetic analysis
India vs. World – 2000 BC
  • Population – World 27m (India 4m, Southwest Asia 5m, China 5m, Egypt 1m)
  • Cities - Largest – Lagash: 80,000 <=> Harappan & Mohenjo Daro: 50,000
  • Mesopotamia - Decline of Sumer, Rise of Babylon – Hamurabi (1750 BC)
  • Egypt - Middle kingdom, 12th dynasty, Ammenemes I (1990 BC)
  • China - First distinctive civilization - Shang (1800 BC)
  • Greece - Farming, small settlement, Aegean & Crete more developed
Archeological Sites
  • Pre Harappan - Mehrgarh – Balochistan – 7000 BC to 3300BC
  • Harappan - Early(3300 BC to 2500 BC), Mature(2500 BC to 2000 BC), Late(2000 BC to 1700 BC)
  • Overlapping
    • Gandhar Grave – Banks of Swat & Dhir – 1600 BC to 500 BC
    • Cemetery H – Punjab – 1900 BC to 1300 BC
    • Ochre Color Pottery – Rajasthan - ?
  • Early Vedic
    • Black & Red Ware – Eastern Gangetic plane – 1200 BC to 900 BC
    • Painted Gray Ware – Western Gangetic plane – 1100 BC to 350 BC
  • Later Vedic
    • Northern Black Polished Ware – 700 BC to 200 BC
Chronology of Vedic Text
  • Rig-Veda – 1500 BC, Similarity with Zoroastrian Avesta
  • Other Veda – 1200 BC to 600 BC Sama-Veda, Yajur-Veda, Atharva-Veda
  • Upanisan – 500 BC
  • Ramayan & Mahabharat - No archeological correlation
  • Panini Sanskrit grammar – 500 BC
Aryan Invasion Theory Did speakers of Indic languages enter from outside? Earlier theory of invasion changed to migration Basis of theory
  • Similarity of Sanskrit with Syrian text of 2000 BC, Greek & Latin
  • Rig-Veda similarity with Zoroastrian Avesta
  • Harappan civilization did not know horse
  • Counter
    • Implies spread of language – not necessarily people invasion
    • No mention of any migration in Vedic text
    • Recent genetic study tend to indicate minimal migration
    • Were the Vedic people in majority or were in small minority?
  • Conclusion – more study required
    • Location of Swaraswati River
    • Further excavation of the archeological sites located
Early Vedic Civilization – 1200 BC Characteristic
  • Nomadic lifestyle
  • Cattle rearing
  • Varna system emerged
  • No money – bartering
  • No writing
  • Sites
    • Gandhar Grave – Northwest
    • Cemetery H – Punjab
    • Ochre Color Pottery – Rajasthan
World Around 1200 BC Dark Age all around
  • China Collapse of Shang dynasty
  • Southwest Asia Almost all major cities destroyed
  • Greece Aegean & Crete destroyed, Every Mycenaean palace destroyed
  • Egypt Lost most of the territory, Power waned rapidly after death of Rameses II
  • India End on Indus valley civilization
Late Vedic Civilization – 600 BC
  • Second urbanization
  • Use of iron tools for crafting
  • Formation of Mahajanapadas (Most powerful – Kashi, Kosala, Magadha)
  • Political organization - Gana-sangha, Kingdom
  • New religion - Buddha - Buddhism, Mahavir - Jainism
  • Rise of Maghada - Bibmisara (520 BC) & Ajatsatru (490 BC), Nanda dynasty
Mahajanapads
  • Middle Ganges Valley Anga, Magadha, Vajji or Vriji, Malla
  • West Kasi, Kosala, Vamsa or Vatsa
  • Central Chedi or Cheti, Avanti
  • Further West Kuru, Panchala, Machcha or Matsya, Surasena
  • North West Gandhara, Kamboja
  • Deccan Assaka or Ashmaka
Use of Iron – Around the world Till 1000 BC very little use
  • Wrought Iron Technology developed in Southwest Asia and India
  • India Special technology for high quality sword blade – prized all around the world, Use of zinc
  • China Use of Iron started 400 years later, Developed Cast Iron technology
India vs. World – 500 BC
  • Population – World 100m (India 25m, China 30m, Greece 3m)
  • Cities - Largest – Babylon: 250,000 <=> Sravasti(Kosala): 150,000
  • Southwest Asia - Fall of Assyrian empire (610 BC), Nebuchadnezzar II (605 BC), Achaemenid empire of Iran (560 BC)
  • Egypt - Initial under Assyrian and later under Achaemenid empire
  • China - Divided into small states – Spring & Autumn period
  • Greece - Sparta (800 BC), Athens (600 BC), Carthage (600 BC), Macedonia (350 BC)
  • Rome - Small villages (700 BC), Established (275 BC)

1 Comments:

Blogger Udayan said...

Tapas

Yes, as was agreed, these are our points of discussion in the next meeting. I am sure Tapan will cover the ground of Second urbanization in India and you will add some more valuable input.

I also think that we need to discuss The First Urbanization of India in a subsequent meeting.

Your input on the first meeting is awaited!

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